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 4/28/2010 10:56 AM
 

I've got a full barrel of rain water, and the lawn doesn't need it yet. So you know what I'm thinking. But has anyone tried it? Will the taste of eavestrough be too strong? Or is this idea so crazy it just might work??

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 4/28/2010 12:18 PM
 
I suppose if you filtered the water first to get out the bugs and bird s**t, then it might be ok. Many people in rural areas drink water from a dugout, and that would just be rain water and ground water.

The water will likely taste different that tap water, but if don't mind the taste of the rain water then it may not foul up your beer too badly.

Probably make a dark, malty beer to cover up the water flavors.

But the ultimate question is whether it is worth the risk.
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 4/30/2010 3:17 PM
 

My understanding here is that rainwater is similar to distilled water as it is evaporated then condensed. As mentioned though it will probably pick up some environmental comtamination through this process as well as sitting in the collection vessel. Not a big if your all grain brewing as you will be boiling it. This would also mean it is basically void of the key elements CaSO4 (gypsum), NaCl (Table Salt), MgSO4 (Epsom Salt), CaCl (Calcium Chloride), NaHCO3 (baking Soda) and CaCO3 (Chalk) which could be seen as a good thing as you can easily make these additions to your water and customize it to your liking. There is lots of good information out there on the internet to help you set up a target water profile as well as figure out how to reach that target. BeerSmith has a great water profile tool in it and I am sure that other brewing softwares do as well.


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 5/5/2010 2:30 PM
 

I guess you could use rainwater to brew with but why? It's cheap from the tap, clean and you know what is in there. I don't think it's worth the risks to save the $0.30.

I'm sure that rain water isn't the same as distilled water, even as it forms in the clouds. As the water is in gas form it would be able to mix with other things in the air to form other compounds etc.. like acid rain as well as after when it is falling to the earth it can pick up other contaminants. Then hits your roof that has been collecting dust and whatever else since the last rain, not to mention the sealers and tars and whatever else is in the shingles. It runs down your troughs and gutters collecting more foreign stuff as well as organic matter from the leaves etc.. in them. Finally it ends up in your barrel with more organic matter and who knows what else.

I wouldn't drink rain water so I wouldn't brew with it..just my two cents but i'm sure somebody has done it somewhere.

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 5/10/2010 8:59 PM
 

I would agree with Duncan on this one. I was just reading New Brewing Lager Beer by Noonan, and he writes the following on the subject:

"All naturally occurring waters are dilute solutions of minerals in which small quantities of gases and organic matter may be dissolved. Rainwater should be the purest natural source of water, but because it assimilates atmospheric gases and organic mineral particles wherever the air is the least bit polluted, most rainwater is absolutely unsuitable for use in brewing. Precipitation in areas far removed from large fossil-fuel burning plants more often than not is still polluted by highly corrosive sulfuric acid. Free hydrogen carbonates...are also common in rainwater. They rob the calcium from the mash, wort, and ferment by forming bicarbonate salts that are precipitated from solution during boiling."

Based on that, I would just avoid the issue altogether by using regular water that you treat to remove the usual suspects - chlorine, chloramine, etc. If you do get adventurous and throw caution to the wind, let us know how it turns out! Good luck!

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 5/13/2010 3:25 PM
 

Let's just pretend I had already had a few when I asked that question.....

Back to the filtered tap water I go....

(unless someone has a glacier I can borrow.....)

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 6/2/2010 3:02 PM
 

I also agree with Duncan. I'd avoid that rainwater. My sister just looked at a house for sale that used rainwater as grey water and even without using it as drinking water, there were several filters and UV light treatment for it. Something to do with how long it sits.

I personally just fill up primary's with tap water and let it sit for a few hours so the chlorine dissipates. I guess you could always run to a grocery store and get the 19 L blue jugs of "spring water". I used to do that for expensive wine kits.

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 6/3/2010 4:32 PM
 

Chris just a side note..but letting your brewing water sit out may not get rid of all the chlorine compounds.

As far as I understand if the water is treated with chlorine this does in fact work quite nicely. But if the water is treated using chloramines as it is here in Calgary just letting it sit out isn't enough. Chloramine is a more stable compound (that's why they use it).

You can however filter it with a carbon filter or you can add a Campden tablet to the water and stir it up. I usually use 1/2 a tablet to about 35L of brew water.

On the other hand..if it's not broke don't fix it.

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 6/3/2010 9:27 PM
 

I use a carbon filter that I picked up from Can Tire for around $35 or so. I rigged it up with a quick disconnect to hook up to my garden hose, and the water really rocks through it. I find it more entertaining than the tablets - the more cool equipment I have, the better!

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 6/4/2010 2:03 PM
 

True enough. I personally can't stand the smell and the water does taste better if you put it in a jug to air out for a while.

I've been making wine with "aired" water for 12 years and it seemed to improve the taste of the finished wines (in my mind anyways) when I started doing it. It works in my world anyways. ;-)

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