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 12/11/2009 1:38 PM
 

Just stopped in at Kost Fire & Safety to pick up my CO2 cylinders which they had filled for me.  I was informed that my fill was the last fill they will be doing because they have stopped stocking food grade CO2.  Apparently food grade CO2 has recently doubled in price and doesn't make sense for Kost to continue (because they focus on non food grade CO2 for fire control).

So I imagine Air Liquide offers food grade CO2 (BevGas), but not sure of their current levies when you aren't renting cylinders from them.  Anybody know?

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 12/11/2009 3:02 PM
 

Damn that is where I get my CO2 from too. Hopefully my 20#er lasts a while.

I was looking into Air Liquide a while ago and they mostly do tank exchanges it sounds like (I wanted a carbon dioxide nitrogen blend). If I remeber correctly they wanted a yearly fee for tank rental and then you pay for the gas you use too. Not really a very good deal for us homebrewers that may only use a few tanks at most a year.

Keep us posted if you find any new sources, there has got to be a few in town!

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 12/12/2009 4:51 PM
 

From what i have researched on the web, and other brew sites, there isn't much, if any difference between Food Grade CO2, and just welding CO2,

I get mine exchanged from liquid air, and have never specifed that it was to be food grade or anything, so I am assuming I am just getting welding CO2.  That said, I haven't noticed any off flavors in my force carbed kegs in three years, nor have I grown a third nipple or any other detrimental side effects.

I don't use bev gas either, as i prefer the co2 bubbles sans nitrogen (I have also read you burn through the bev gas cylinders faster than straight co2)

Just my 2 cents.

Derek

Other suppliers you could check out is Praxair (medgas), or oxypro.

 

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 1/9/2010 8:02 AM
 

I have used the CO2 from Liquid Air for the past 8 months. The deal with them was I bought a tank, or rather the 'rights' to a tank for life...it ran somewhere between $100-150 or so. Then, anytime I need a refill, I take it in and they replace it with another full tank, which will cost me about $25-30. According to the deal, this is set up for life. The tank size I bought was their 15L tank, which is somewhere around 3.5 feet tall, and lasts bloody forever. I`m really happy with this deal, and I would recommend it to anyone looking for a good CO2 setup. You need to buy the regulator separately (I bought mine elsewhere), but then you`re good to go. Hope that helps!

Jeremy

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 1/9/2010 8:49 AM
 
 Modified By Darren B  on 1/9/2010 9:50:23 AM

That sounds like about the best deal to be found in Calgary right now. One question, though -- it sounds like you paid for a deposit on the tank. Do they charge you a 'rental' fee on the tank too? That seems to be the case with most other places.

Oh, also -- what's the address of the shop you used? Thanks.

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 3/18/2010 10:14 AM
 
I've got my kegs and regulator, now I just need some C02.

Has anyone else checked out Air Liquide? Is this the best deal in town?

What size of tank is recommended? I'm currently brewing 5 gallons/month, and would like the tank to be somewhat portable (be able to move it in and out of my basement without hurting myself).


I assume that Air Liquide would also be a good source for Oxygen, for aerating wort before pitching yeast. Thoughts?
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 4/1/2010 6:46 PM
 

The address of the Air Liquide I went to is: 22-2520 23 Street Ne. You can actually see it from Barlow Trail, but you have to access it from the road one block east of Barlow...turn into the parking lot - it's close to the Hooters, boys, so you should be able to find it. You then drive around the large strip mall building to the front. Sorry if that sounds confusing. Anyway, I checked my actual invoice from the store. Total charges, including lifetime rights to new tanks when I need refills, was $186 and change. The last time I went to refill, it cost me about $27. The tanks last a long time. It's been MANY brews carbonated since my last refill, and I have hardly put any sort of a dent into the tank's volume. Great stuff. The guys there were also really reasonable gents, which is an added bonus. Let me know if anyone has any questions about it!

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 4/6/2010 8:35 AM
 
I called Air Liquid for a quote on C02 about 2 weeks ago. For a 15L tank it would cost $230+GST to own or a yearly rental fee of $60. And then around $25 to refill. Kinda weird that the offer I got was so different than Jeremy.

I ended up going to Sprouse Fire & Safety. I got a 10L tank for $170+GST and refills will be around $22. The tank was a refurbished fire extinguisher. This may not be the best deal in town, but they are located very close to where I live so it is easy to drop my tank off when I need a refill. They refill tanks periodically, whenever they have enough tanks to fill to justify firing up the CO2 machine. So I'll probably just call them when I am getting low and find out when the next fill date is.
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 4/7/2010 10:49 AM
 

I'd be very careful about using welding grade CO2. From my research, the filling process for welding grade allows for backflow into the canister. This means the possibility of humidity getting into the canister, and rust forming. Rust, as we know, is bad. Bad for flavour, and bad for health.

Food grade CO2 has an extra valve in the filling process to prevent backflow. That's probably why it's more expensive.

Sources:

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plants...

http://www.njreefers.org/forums/index...

Disclaimer: What I just told you is based on what I read on the internet. So you're taking advice from an anonymous guy on the internet who read something on the internet.

J

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